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National Forests Could See Large Closures - enough said!
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As one OHV enthusiast has pointed out - "It requires you to apply for a special event permit if you are going to have one OHV running on your property and you happen to have a group of 10 or more people there. The permit has to be applied for weeks in advance, and costs $155.00."
As another OHVer said in a Letter To The Editor of the Hi-Desert Star "Why should we repeal ordinance 3973? Simple answer: It is unconstitutional and preempted by state law. We are only standing up for a Constitutional principle and upholding California state law. It is even harder to figure why Community ORV Watch can’t understand our desire to uphold the law and the Constitution. There are already laws addressing trespass, noise, speed, disturbing the peace, curfew, drunkenness or any number of the problems people have with one another. It is not government’s responsibility to be your mom. Government has no business exercising the power of controlling private property. Private citizens best protect private property. This new 3973 ordinance is just plain wrong. Requiring a permit for a family to assemble on their own land … that’s un-American! Everybody’s goal should be to maintain our right to assemble as a family regardless of OHV activity or number of persons on our private property without government intervention, i.e. permits and inspections of property and vehicles by county code enforcement. I guess when this goes before the courts you and I will know who is right. I understand that several public policy law firms are standing in the wings ready to file suit..."
Under the heat from opponents of this ordinance the San Bernadino County Board of Supervisors is reconsidering Off Road Ordinance 3973 to determine if any modifications should be made.
County, ME Seeing Benefit of ATVs
A 2005 analysis by the University of Maine’s Margaret Chase Smith Policy Center estimated that ATVs contribute more than $200 million to Maine’s economy. Many feel that the financial impact is largely due to the expanded trail system.
Unfortunately, not all Maine residents agree that all is well with the ATV tourism. They still cite ATV-related problems. There are trespassing issues on both private and public land. Acadia National Park officials have been battling illegal ATV riding in the park for several years. A small group of riders, believed to be mostly juveniles from local towns, have been making their own trails in the park, damaging small trees and vegetation. Last winter some people riding on ATVs smashed walkway lights in a campground and knocked down a privacy wall near a restroom, causing an estimated $2,000 damage. Local ATV industry groups quickly responded with $500 rewards for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the vandals. Several large landowners remain opposed to ATVs because of persistent damage problems and liability concerns. ATV supporters say that these problems are merely growing pains and will be worked out as the industry and trail system mature.
This is another great example of the benefits of a community/area embracing the ATV community.
This is the idiot that gives all of us a bad name.
What a ridiculous question! You know what the law is otherwise you wouldn't have posted (also your term "can I get away with" gives away the fact that you know it is against the law). Thankfully, some responsible individuals on the forum shot down his idea quickly for a number of reasons. And, that is what we all must do when confronted with numbskulls in our sport. Handle them and let them know that their behavior is not acceptable and that we will notify the proper authorities to see to it that they are punished if it continues. There is simply to much at stake to act otherwise. We are facing way to much criticism and negative publicity to allow the idiots to run wild. I know it is really not our jobs to deal with them, but in times of crisis things need to be handled differently. We are under attack from a worthy adversary who knows how to manipulate public opinion. We cannot afford to allow the baggage in our sport to hand them golden PR opportunities. We were glad to see that a number of true off-road enthusiasts replied quickly and without hesitation that his ridiculous proposal was not reasonable, acceptable or legal.
Problems Arising In WV on the Hatfield-McCoy Trail System
Another resident told business owners that the community was not trying to stop visitors from hauling ATVs in trailers so they can reach trails, but that t hey were hoping to keep the riders from taking their ATVs onto the paved roadway. The resident was quoted saying “We’re not trying to ruin your business...“We just want peace of mind for us. They come into our yards, and this has been going on for two years straight. The only solution is to get them off the road, and if we have to we’ll go to Charleston (the State Capital).” A store owner said most ATV riders are responsible, but there are 10 percent who cause trouble. He was quoted as saying “Are you going to penalize that 90 percent who don’t do that?......I know how they aggravate people, and we tell them to keep the speed down; of course, you’ve got that 10 percent who won’t listen. Most of our trouble is from local four-wheelers. The people from North Carolina don’t drive 100 miles to tear up property.”
The ATV problems being seen in Mercer County are found in every county in West Virginia, according to Chief Deputy D.B. Bailey. One possible way to address irresponsible ATV use is to require owners to register their vehicles. ATV users do not have to have inspection tags, meet specific equipment requirements or have licenses. Law enforcement officials have no authority over ATVs other than traffic violations such as driving under the influence, reckless driving and speeding. County Commission President Joe Coburn said the commission has not decided what action to take, if any.
Here is a great example of 10% of the people creating problems for everyone, residents and respectful OHVers! What should be done? It is fairly simple to me. Don't penalize everyone. Institute ridiculously heavy fines so that even if you are caught only once, it hurts like hell. This will make the offenders stop and think before acting like idiots.
VT Officials Consider Allowing Use of Roads by ATVs That Connect With Trail Systems
Forest Service In Georgia Proposing Annual OHV Pass
Detailed information and maps for the OHV trails can be found at the US Forest Service's website.
TX Developing A New Off-Road Park
Management Plans Come To Texas National Forests and Grasslands In a Big Way!
OHV Travel Route Fiasco in Eldorado National Forest Was Impacted By a Lawsuit
- Another Greenie Use of the Courts To Push Their Agenda!
Every national forest has been instructed to draft a travel management plan, but the completion of Eldorado National Forest's plan was dramatically altered by a 2005 court order that came about from a lawsuit filed by the conservation groups Center for Sierra Nevada Conservation, Center for Biological Diversity and the California Wilderness Coalition. The groups filed a challenge to the Forest Service's original analysis of the impact of motorized vehicles on the forest that was originally contained in the 1990 trail management plan. As we have said before, look for more and more of these lawsuits all across the country. The OHV community had better get a legal defense fund going.
Approximately 700 miles of roads and trails in the national forest have been closed since an Aug. 2005 forest supervisor's order. Naturally OHV enthusiasts are upset with these closures, as well as the additional closures and restrictions called for in the newly revised and proposed plan. The summary of the 5 alternatives are:
According the Forest Service the final Travel Management Plan will be announced by December 2007 and a complete motor vehicle use map containing the officially designated travel routes will be released some time in 2008. Comments regarding the travel management plans will be accepted until September 4th. We urge you to send your comments to :
Villalvazo, Forest Supervisor
ATV Training Required for 20 Year Olds* and Younger to Obtain a DNR Certificate
*Applies to anyone born after July 1, 1987.
Redneck Games at Pool Ranch in Texas "Out of Control" According to Neighbors
Concerning OHV Use in Santa Fe National Forest Coming Up
During these meetings, Forest Service staff members will host public meetings where participants will be able to review and make comment on maps showing trails, roads and current uses in the national forest. The maps were generated from public meetings last year. The U.S. Forest Service has required that all national forests create travel management plans for controlling motorized vehicle access to the lands. Once the roads and trails are formally designated for vehicles and ATVs, all other roads, trails and areas of national forests will be closed to motorized use. The rules will impact ORV e users as well as campers, hunters, fishermen, and others. Based on the outcome of the August public meetings (supposedly the Forest Service staff will listen to what we have to say), Forest Service personnel will draft a proposed list and map of motorized trails and roads. Officials report that this document should be ready for public review in October. New Mexico OHV users need to attend these meetings to make sure their voices are heard.
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